When You Call Yourself Fat…
...are you offending other people?
I wrote this post a few weeks ago and then put it aside not sure if I should publish it. Then my friend Gwen made a comment on another post saying a very similar thing. So I decided to put on my grown up panties and post it in hopes that it will start a positive discussion.
I listen to people shopping put themselves or the size of their clothing down all the time. And I wonder if they realize how offensive they might be to other people. For clarity before I go on - I am not usually personally offended. But I am trying to pay more attention lately to how I talk about myself - first to be respectful of myself and secondly to be more aware how I sound if someone else is listening from the outside. It is this second point that I focus this particular post.
For the sake of providing an example I will use my husband. My husband is particularly skinny - he wears a size 28/29 waist jean. And he is constantly saying things are size "elephant" if the size is any larger than a 30. Well the average size Canadian is much larger than a 30 - I am larger than a 30. So when we are shopping pretty much anyone in the store could take his comment as an insult to them. Of course he doesn't actually think people bigger than him are elephant size. But his comments could be considered rather offensive by others.
I have friends or acquaintances that will talk about how fat they are, or how much weight they have gained, or how they dare not have a piece of cake cause it would go straight to their hips (note - I have been guilty of all of these). Then in the next breath say, but "you" look great go ahead and have dessert. How can I, 2-4 dress sizes larger than many of my friends, not think when you call yourself fat that you are also inferring that anyone larger than you is also fat?
I talk a lot about accepting who you are and owning your own beauty. I encourage myself, and others, to be kind to themselves. To give ourselves a break. To be a good example to our children to encourage them to accept and love themselves. And I have a great good of supportive girlfriends, who really try to help each other work through our body issues.
I am not talking about how we can get exasperated by a beautiful friend who might not be able to see her own beauty - that was a topic of another post from another day.
I am not talking about the occassional time you just put your foot in your mouth. Like the time I commented to a woman wearing head to-toe denim that I really think it looks like crap when wear denim with denim. Or the time I congratulated a friend on being pregnant. Actually I think those are two feet in mouth moments!
I am talking about when your own self talk or glib comments can be taken by other people as being critical of them. I wonder about the example we provide when we talk about ourselves. When I crack a joke about shopping at plus size stores because I need a 14/16 size pant. What does someone who wears an 18, 22 or larger size feel I am saying about them? Or the example we provide for slimmer women than ourselves when we made glib comments about skinny girls.
I don't think I have the answer. But the idea that we could be offending other people by how we talk about ourselves has been rattling around my head lately. So I thought I'd put it out there and see what kind of shit storm discussion results.
The start for me, has been to become more aware of how I talk about myself. First to be respectful of myself and second to be respectful for those around me. So I try not to use my physical self as the butt of the joke. Not just to myself, but with others. Because when I put myself down, I could be putting them down too.
What about you? Are you ever offended by how other people talk about themselves?












This post has 5 comments
February 28th, 2013
I sometimes want to bash my skull through a wall REPEATEDLY whenever I hear someone -- usually my youngest sister -- put down her looks. Of course, after bandaging my bloodied head, I want to hug her and tell her she's beautiful and awesome in every way.
One day, she'll own her beauty, even if it means buying one of those mineclearers that function like a mechanical cat to help clear the minefield that is high school and college.
March 1st, 2013
I read your post and thought about how I talk about myself and then realized I generally call myself fat in my head. So that doesn't really fit in to what you are speaking to, but it does speak to how hard I am on myself.
March 1st, 2013
Lisa - I wrote about that topic a couple of weeks ago. http://fashionforward40.com/2013/a-little-self-mantra/ I think we all need to be less hard on ourselves, and appreciate the awesome that we are.
March 5th, 2013
Your question has been dogging me since I read it, and I've tried to compose my response several times but it's so hard to settle on the right way to express how I feel because you addressed several topics.
I think the easy way to determine if your comments are inappropriate is to consider how you would feel if your four year old child said them to a stranger. Would your comment make you laugh because it's charming, insiteful, and funny; or would you cringe in embarrassment? I don't think you should stop laughing at yourself for fear of being offensive. If you're laughing at your imperfections you are not empowering them to control your life. We should all learn to laugh at ourselves a little easier. If you take a realistic assessment of your body, you know your high points and your flaws, so you should be able to laugh off your imperfections on most days. For example, I asked my husband to reaffirm if the rise in my new pants were too low, and he confirmed with our personal joke that "you can't fit a high rise butt into a pair of low rise pants." Funny but true. However, I would recommend your husband only makes elephant sizing references at home or in private company. It's not really funny coming from a guy that small. Maybe compare himself to Paul Bunyon instead.
I think we should all enjoy a little cake in our lives, so don't deprieve yourself or let your friends discourage you with silly little ideas about a bite of cake magically causing one's butt to double in size overnight. If you're honest with yourself, are you really impressed with your friends with incredible self control who deny themselves any enjoyment with food, or are you sad for them because food really does control their lives. They somehow have come up with a way to equate their self-image with food, as if the less they eat in public, the skinnier the world will see them. Um, no thanks. I'll take the cake and a walk any day over that.
I think embracing more interesting style icons-women who have aged gracefully, publicly and with style (Sophia Loren for example) will help you to see that aging is not the be all end all for women- life goes on for women over 40; and try to discourage the example of other icons, women with body dismorphia who cling unrealisticly to the image of their youthful twenties (I have a list of celebrities but I'll save it for another day) .
March 5th, 2013
Nikki - This was the type of conversation I was hoping to start with this post.
I agree that we should always be able to laugh about ourselves. But I think there is a thin line between honestly laughing at our true selves and putting ourselves down through a joke.And I'm not always sure if we know the difference.
I like your suggestion of using a child saying something as a filter for how appropriate something might be. I used to use my Grandmother as a test... but then I realized she often said exactly what she thought, so that might not be a good filter.
For the record hubbie usually gets an elbow to the ribs when he makes comments like that in public. But he made a good example to use that couldn't be mistakenly read into by any of the women I know.